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	<title>Comments on: Knock it off</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://www.arenamagazine.co.uk/news/knock-it-off/#comment-42615</link>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is an intensely irritating song.How are we supposed to react? what are we supposed to do? spy on our mates to see if they are pirates? Who gives a monkeys anyway?as if the film industry is so poor!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is an intensely irritating song.How are we supposed to react? what are we supposed to do? spy on our mates to see if they are pirates? Who gives a monkeys anyway?as if the film industry is so poor!!</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.arenamagazine.co.uk/news/knock-it-off/#comment-42465</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I see... you're saying it's better to express the fault with the original act; I completely agree. Any comparison games just lead to confusion, as we've kinda proved. These ads are basically just trying to character-assassinate the downloader; they contain no anti-downloading argument whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I see&#8230; you&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s better to express the fault with the original act; I completely agree. Any comparison games just lead to confusion, as we&#8217;ve kinda proved. These ads are basically just trying to character-assassinate the downloader; they contain no anti-downloading argument whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.arenamagazine.co.uk/news/knock-it-off/#comment-42456</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin, cheers for that. 

I think my point still stands that embellishing one crime (or "crime") by implying that it makes you likely to commit a separate crime is wrong-headed. If you killed someone by drink-driving, that would be as a &lt;i&gt;direct result&lt;/i&gt; of the original crime, wouldn't it?

Anyway, Adam Bowie says it more eloquently than me on his &lt;a href="http://www.adambowie.com/weblog/archive/002478.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;excellent blog&lt;/a&gt;.

Re: last comment. I suppose it is a big problem if you're a movie studio losing out on millions. There again, as you say, there is a big assumption in the idea that everyone who downloads a film or buys a dodgy DVD would otherwise have gone to see it at the cinema.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin, cheers for that. </p>
<p>I think my point still stands that embellishing one crime (or &#8220;crime&#8221;) by implying that it makes you likely to commit a separate crime is wrong-headed. If you killed someone by drink-driving, that would be as a <i>direct result</i> of the original crime, wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Anyway, Adam Bowie says it more eloquently than me on his <a href="http://www.adambowie.com/weblog/archive/002478.html" rel="nofollow">excellent blog</a>.</p>
<p>Re: last comment. I suppose it is a big problem if you&#8217;re a movie studio losing out on millions. There again, as you say, there is a big assumption in the idea that everyone who downloads a film or buys a dodgy DVD would otherwise have gone to see it at the cinema.</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.arenamagazine.co.uk/news/knock-it-off/#comment-42422</link>
		<dc:creator>.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Knock Off Nigel campaign is bloody irritating, I agree. I couldn't give a flying fuck about internet piracy. 
Is it that much of a problem?, in my experience the type of people who buy Pirate DVD's from 'that Chinese bloke outside the cafe', aren't the type to go to the Cinema much anyway. And they're probably pissed off with being ripped off by paying £15 Popcorn and a Coke. 

Going off in another direction (sorry), have you seen the Orange ads at the Cinema, fucking genius! That's how you make commercials.
You can RazzleDazzle my Fantazmagazzle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Knock Off Nigel campaign is bloody irritating, I agree. I couldn&#8217;t give a flying fuck about internet piracy.<br />
Is it that much of a problem?, in my experience the type of people who buy Pirate DVD&#8217;s from &#8216;that Chinese bloke outside the cafe&#8217;, aren&#8217;t the type to go to the Cinema much anyway. And they&#8217;re probably pissed off with being ripped off by paying £15 Popcorn and a Coke. </p>
<p>Going off in another direction (sorry), have you seen the Orange ads at the Cinema, fucking genius! That&#8217;s how you make commercials.<br />
You can RazzleDazzle my Fantazmagazzle!</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.arenamagazine.co.uk/news/knock-it-off/#comment-42400</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, gosh, well you know this is never going to be as good as the original... but I’ll try and remember what I wrote...


Drink drivers may not be muggers but they are occasionally killers, like muggers, so I don’t think it helps your case to reference them; you’re guilty of playing as fast and loose with equivalence as the ad makers.


The ad &lt;I&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; terrible though.


While at the cinema and watching that shaky ‘you wouldn’t steal a car’ one for the umpteenth time I thought about how they &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; do anti-piracy campaigns... as a series of short police procedural dramas (make them good, like Michael Mann would, so that they’ll be worth watching by themselves) that centre on the bust of a pirate-DVD factory and then trace the profits, keeping the preachy message to a single end-credit card. Anyone want to greenlight this with me installed as director?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, gosh, well you know this is never going to be as good as the original&#8230; but I’ll try and remember what I wrote&#8230;</p>
<p>Drink drivers may not be muggers but they are occasionally killers, like muggers, so I don’t think it helps your case to reference them; you’re guilty of playing as fast and loose with equivalence as the ad makers.</p>
<p>The ad <i>is</i> terrible though.</p>
<p>While at the cinema and watching that shaky ‘you wouldn’t steal a car’ one for the umpteenth time I thought about how they <i>should</i> do anti-piracy campaigns&#8230; as a series of short police procedural dramas (make them good, like Michael Mann would, so that they’ll be worth watching by themselves) that centre on the bust of a pirate-DVD factory and then trace the profits, keeping the preachy message to a single end-credit card. Anyone want to greenlight this with me installed as director?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.arenamagazine.co.uk/news/knock-it-off/#comment-42395</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Benjamin Knight, being a ham-fisted idiot I somehow managed to delete your comment. Don't suppose you want to leave it again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Benjamin Knight, being a ham-fisted idiot I somehow managed to delete your comment. Don&#8217;t suppose you want to leave it again?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.arenamagazine.co.uk/news/knock-it-off/#comment-42394</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean you haven't seen it? Count yourself lucky.   Anyway, I've added the ad from YouTube now. Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean you haven&#8217;t seen it? Count yourself lucky.   Anyway, I&#8217;ve added the ad from YouTube now. Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>er, any chance you can put a link up then? Otherwise no-one knows what you're on about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>er, any chance you can put a link up then? Otherwise no-one knows what you&#8217;re on about.</p>
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